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I introduced The Mysterious Planet to Tame Layman in somewhat disparaging terms. Perhaps as a result of this he spent much of the first episode pointing out its good points to me, but by the third episode the discussion had turned to "what went wrong". Because The Mysterious Planet really ought to be much better than it is.

Its problems have sometimes been blamed on the fact that Robert Holmes was ill when he wrote it and died only a few months later. But actually there are flashes of Holmes on good form here - particularly the "double act" of Dibber and Glitz who are entertaining but with enough of an edge that you don't forget they are actually rather unpleasant criminals. The warrior queen Katryka also has a lot of good dialogue and certainly one of the things that went wrong seems to be that Joan Simms is completely bemused by the part rather than relishing in it. The set up is interesting, the world-building has a lot of nice touches, I'm not at all certain that the script is the core of the problem here.

Well, I will qualify that, I don't think the script in terms of events on Ravolox is the problem. I think almost everything to do with the Doctor's trial is dire. It breaks up the action to deliver nothing of real consequence. It makes the Doctor look stupid. It makes the Valeyard look little better. And it makes no sense. Tame layman kept asking why the Valeyard was presenting this as evidence against the Doctor since, contrary to the Valeyard's claims, the events mostly unfolded because Dibber and Glitz were present, not because the Doctor was present. Obviously something like 10 episodes later it is revealed that the whole trial is in part a front to cover up the Doctor's discoveries on Ravolox but even that doesn't make much sense - why present as evidence the events you are trying to cover up?

It also suffers from many of the 1980s problems of over-lighting, variable effects (some great, some good, some poor), and poor performances from some of the supporting cast. But other stories manage to rise above such things. In the end I think its biggest problems are the, in retrospect, poor decision to use a trial framing device for the whole season and one of the few occasions where John Nathan-Turner's desire to cast high profile guest actors back-fired.

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Date: 2019-05-27 02:52 pm (UTC)
elisi: Edwin and Charles (Valeyard)
From: [personal profile] elisi
I love Trial of a Time Lord. (Except for the Vervoids, obvs.)

I love the framing. I love the Inquisitor. (Lynda Bellingham! ♥ ♥ ♥) I love that it seems to random, but then all slots together at the end so beautifully. I love that the Doctor is questioned on his motives and whether he actually does more harm or good, issues that don't really surface until New Who otherwise. I love that officially it's the Doctor who is on trial, but that in reality it's the Time Lords, because the Valeyard knows who the real bad guys are.

It all seems incongruous from a Classic Who POV, but skip ahead a few decades and it fits so beautifully it's unreal. Like the show time travelled.

And you reminded me that I have been meaning to write a long post about this (can you tell? *g*) and it's still only half-finished.

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Date: 2019-05-28 09:18 pm (UTC)
elisi: (Six)
From: [personal profile] elisi
I'm certainly not convinced it is really intended as an examination or criticism of the Doctor's motives - the fact that it is all a set-up rather undermines this
Whether it's a Doylist or a Watsonian examination of the effects Doctor's meddling, the fact is that it's there, front and centre. We see it brought up very occasionally prior to this (say, Face of Evil), but here the question of whether his meddling actually is a good or a bad thing is what he has to defend. Sure it's a set-up, but the question is asked and he has to grapple with what it all means. People die because of him. A lot. (Six has none of Twelve's introspection, but you can draw straight lines from S23 and to 'Tell me Clara, am I a good man?')

I don't really see the Time Lords as the Valeyard's targets (they are more the Master's targets).
???? The Master shows up to *help* the Doctor (as all good archenemies, he doesn't like it when others try to kill his special opponent), whereas the Valeyard's plan is literally to blow up the High Court and everyone in it. (The Master tries to take advantage of the chaos, but that's just because he's opportunistic.) Sure the Valeyard wants to off the Doctor too, but his main target is revealed to be the Time Lords.

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