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It's interesting* that the very first season of Primeval included explicitly both underwater and airborne anomalies. After that (with I think one exception) all the anomalies were basically terrestrial. Primeval:New World seems to be attempting to mix-it-up in a similar way.

I actually really thought, until about 5 minutes in, that the airplane had flown into the anomaly. I can't work out if that was me being thick, a deliberate ploy (but then why?) or poor direction. It also seems like a really odd choice to have an airplane feature so prominently in the plot and not have an airborne threat (OK, the queen bug... but still). On the plus side Primeval has in general avoided plots that deal with locations on the far side of an anomaly, let alone plots which involve attempting to get back to the anomaly, so it was nice to see something new being tried here.

I wasn't really terribly enamoured of this episode. It was more gripping than Sisiuti but still shared a number of that story's flaws (the monster is not really related at all to pre-history; Dylan and Evan, despite dialogue to that effect, still don't really strike me as lovers in the making). Furthermore, Hannah Spearitt having successfully put her foot down on the subject of wandering around in her underwear, it seems clear that the writers have quite happily resurrected the idea and inflicted it on poor Crystal Lowe as Toby. To add insult to injury it seems that, despite being billed as the "Tech Wizard", Toby's primary purpose in the show is to act as a glorified switchboard operator and speaking wikipedia page. Lastly, despite the fact I liked the originality of the set-up on the far side of the anomaly, I didn't like fact that their careful planning to escape eventually came to naught. Meanwhile the plot with Mack and Samantha in the modern world was slight to the point of, well, pointlessness.

In some ways it is wierd watching this, compared to the original. Lots of it just does look a little bit more professional. B. commented that he felt the actors, especially those in secondary roles like the two pilots, were of a higher calibre than those used in the UK Primeval. At the same time it all feels a bit bland. I've been having a huge problem remembering the character's names and keep having to look them up on the internet. Similarly the sets look really great (the Canadian scenery is a massive plus) and the writing is often showing more attention to detail (I liked here the way Dylan is allowed to extrapolate from existing bugs to the likely behaviour of these bugs) but at the end of the day the stories seem to be simpler and more one note than the original.

I can't help feeling the whole show needs to move up a gear to really work.


*for a value of interesting that probably only applies to geeky types.

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Date: 2012-11-27 07:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] fredbassett
This one was actually my favourite episode so far. I was genuinely surprised when the female co-pilot got eaten by the bugs.

And I loved the fact that they fell about 15 feet through the anomaly. It's high time that happened.

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Date: 2012-11-27 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bigtitch.livejournal.com
I liked this episode (despite being phobic about big insects and being eaten by them or having them lay eggs in someone is pure nightmare fuel!) But I came away a bit unsatisfied. There's just not much happening in terms of story arc, especially when you compare it to the first three eps of the UK Primeval. I hope it isn't, but it feels like it's sliding into the normal N American TV episodic scenario. It reminds me of myself trying to do a proper swimming breast stroke - there's a lot of effort and action but very little forward motion.

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Date: 2012-11-28 10:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bigtitch.livejournal.com
Which is why I don't watch a huge amount of US tv (with exceptions). I'll give a show 2-3 episodes to get me interested and if they haven't done that I stop watching. If I was watching P:NW as a completely new series I think I would have given up on it by now. Waiting 13 eps before getting a sniff at a proper plot arc? No chance!

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Date: 2012-11-28 07:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-cubed.livejournal.com
I've not watched either the UK or US version, but there are some general rules (which have of course got many exceptions) about UK and US TV, some of which you seem to be pointing to here.

US shows have higher budgets (they have larger initial audences even now and those audiences are generally better off so more attractive to advertisers who pay the bills). This means the sets, locations and supporting actors are generally better.

However, because they need to overcome the lack of budget, UK writers and editors and sometimes directors tend to be more attentive to details.

US shows have to fit into a tighter writing/shooting/editing/delivery schedule than UK shows generally, with less time for cross-epsiode editing and re-writing. This is particularly true at the beginning of a show, even one which is a transplant. THis means that the first half season, sometimes the first full season, tends very much to be episode of the week even where the show runners want to do ongoing story arcs. There's lots of US shows that you need to watch the first season for the character set-up but have to perservere to season two for the ongoing story to really get going in any consistent way.

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Date: 2012-11-28 12:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-cubed.livejournal.com
If you're intrested in any of the gory details of how US (/Canadian) TV shows actually get made, Tanya Huff's piece on her episode of Blood Ties (based on her Blood ... series of books) which is in the anothology of short stories related to the book series is very good. Basically in US shows the showrunner and associated editors (usuall listed as exec producer and co-exec producers in US shows) rewrite all scripts coming in to a greater or lesser extent. Particularly in the first season of a show this tends to mean that only a few lines of the original script really survive.

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Date: 2012-11-29 05:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-cubed.livejournal.com
Neil Gaiman's description on his blog seems to imply that although he does significant re-writing at Moff's request, that his script is pretty much what gets made, although he does have to make changes from his original ideas to final script.

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