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Castrovalva is famously inspired by an Escher print (though, frankly, one of the less interesting ones). However, given that starting point, you would expect weird geometries, staircases and arched colonnades to be a prominent part of the story from the start. It is perhaps surprising therefore that it takes a long time to actually reach Castrovalva. The first two episodes feel more like an extended prologue than part of the story proper. In fact, one almost wonders if this would have worked better split into two linked smaller stories - the first the tale of the Fifth Doctor's troubled regeneration and the TARDIS's flight into Event One at the hands of the Master, followed by the more elaborate trap at Castrovalva itself.

With the Doctor and Adric absent for much of the story, the burden of carrying the action along falls on the shoulders of Sarah Sutton's Nyssa and Janet Fielding's Tegan who are pleasingly resourceful and irritatingly feeble by slightly inconsistent turns. This is nevertheless one of the better stories for both of them and allows them to actually build up a relationship with each other which it would have been nice to see more of as the series progressed.

Castrovalva itself reveals both the strengths and the weaknesses of the 1980s BBC. It looks great. The costumes which nod towards the early modern Dutch outfits (as do many of Escher's prints) could have been laughable but actually work and evoke a distinctive character for the place. However, the effects when Castrovalva starts to break down are woeful. On the page this is clearly supposed to be an Escheresque nightmare of endless staircases and distorted perspective - instead we get swirling images - oh well.

I felt with Logopolis that Christopher H. Bidmead was a little too enamoured of his pseudo-science (and possibly thought it was rather less pseudo- than I did). Castrovalva is a much stronger script, particularly the sections in Castrovalva itself, giving us a real sense of place and incidental characters who we care about. It's a shame Bidmead was about to leave the show because I would say Castrovalva is one of the better realisations of his vision for the show and, had he stayed on, he might have become surer footed and produced more stories that were actually strong yarns as well as interesting ideas.

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Date: 2018-01-22 08:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jesuswasbatman
I remember the bits between the departure from the TARDIS to the arrival at Castrovalva as some of the dullest padding in the entire history of the series.

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Date: 2018-01-22 09:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] isis
What, do you mean this one? http://sethgodin.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b31569e2013489158321970c-800wi

My parents actually have an original (signed and numbered) print of that, probably the most valuable single thing they own other than their house. I'm sure that seeing it every day in the living room while growing up contributed to my view of the world So don't you dare call it uninteresting! :-)

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Date: 2018-01-22 10:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] summerstorm
I don't know anything about this but Castrovalva legit sounds like a weird word for ablation. Because castrar and vulva are so close to it. D:

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Date: 2018-01-22 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daniel-saunders.livejournal.com
I like the stuff in Castrovalva. The first half I find dull. Davison holds the attention, but he spends most of part two asleep in a box. Oh well.

I think the 1980s special effects just weren't up to making Castrovalva look Escher-ey. I have wondered if they could do something like it now with CGI.

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Date: 2018-01-22 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] parrot-knight.livejournal.com
Pedant's corner: Technically Bidmead had left the show - he was asked back a couple of months after leaving to fill the gap caused by Antony Root and Barry Letts rejecting Zeta Plus One as Davison's opening story while John Nathan-Turner was on holiday. It is very much his story structurally, though, with so much backended onto the second half, and an influence on Saward's copying of the same thing.

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Date: 2018-01-24 08:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] unfeathered
I do enjoy Castrovalva, but yes, mainly the bits within the town itself, with the Master etc.

It's a bit like The Christmas Invasion - you spend half of it waiting for the new Doctor to wake up and show you what he's going to be like - and once he does, it's great!

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Date: 2018-01-28 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daniel-saunders.livejournal.com
Hmm, JNT didn't see it as a mistake here, but a deliberate decision to keep people watching past Castrovalva part four and into the rest of the season. At odds with this was his decision to film season nineteen's opening stories out of order, so you get a much more unfinished fifth Doctor in Four to Doomsday. Similarly with Colin Baker, The Twin Dilemma was deliberately intended to make the new Doctor initially unlikeable, but then it was broadcast at the end of season twenty-one, making it less likely that viewers would watch season twenty-two (although that was still the last season in the original run to get halfway decent viewing figures).

But I would broadly agree with this, which is why I find post-regeneration stories mostly dull. The Power of the Daleks, The Christmas Invasion and The Eleventh Hour are probably my favourites, but even then I think Power is probably the best and although the new Doctor is initially over the top compared with later stories, it is at least recognisably the second Doctor after the first episode or so and he is in it all the time.

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Date: 2018-01-28 05:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] unfeathered
Oh, I mostly like post-regeneration stories, partly I guess because I love to see how they'll set things up for what's to come. I love Rose, I do love Christmas Invasion once it gets going, and I love Eleventh Hour. The only one recently that I don't love is Deep Breath, because Twelve is just weird in that, which I guess is an example of Louise's "Doctor acting out of character" above.

Before that? I adore Empty Child, didn't think much of Power of the Daleks but that may be because it's animated and I just don't seem able to feel engaged by animations, loved the Third Doctor Auton one, can't remember much about the Fourth Doctor one, comments on Castrovalva above, and haven't seen Six's or Seven's first ones. Guess those are some I should add to the wish list!

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Date: 2018-01-28 06:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daniel-saunders.livejournal.com
The Twin Dilemma (the first sixth Doctor story) is consistently voted worst Doctor Who story ever! Considering that every poll seems to produce a different top ten, the fact that this is always at the bottom is saying something. Time and the Rani (the first seventh Doctor story) isn't considered much better, although I think it's slightly under-rated.

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Date: 2018-01-28 06:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] unfeathered
Yeah, I was aware they weren't generally lauded, which is why I haven't got them, but I do have a bit of a thing for 'first' stories so I think I'll have to get them eventually!

To be fair, I think I've probably got most of the *really* good ones now anyway! Two shelves' worth, at least! :-D

Bonus in BBC DVD

Date: 2018-01-30 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] julian richardson (from livejournal.com)
If you have the BBC DVD then one of the extras is a recording of the Multicoloured Swap Shop session with Peter Davison. If you play the phone in session then you might recognize the name of caller number 5 or so... :-)
Edited Date: 2018-01-30 09:42 pm (UTC)

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