Dr Johnson's London
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purplecatMy history teacher at school always maintained that the 18th century was boring. So boring, in fact, that she skipped pretty much straight from the death of Queen Anne to the accession of Queen Victoria. In my, somewhat dim, recollection this was all blamed on Cecil Rhodes in some way. The thought has gradually been dawning on me that she might have been incorrect about this as, I suspect, she may have been wrong about the tragic tale of Elizabeth I's heartbreak although she was clearly completely right about the innocence of Richard III. History was my favourite subject at school since it seemed to revolve entirely around scandal, prejudice and who's wife got on with whom.
Anyway as a scientist with an interest in the history of ideas, missing out on the 18th century has proved to be something of a hole in my education. On the other hand there is nothing like deciding to set some fanfic in 18th century London to make you actually do something about such a hole. So I haven't gone out and purchased anything on the Royal Society or the Enlightenment but instead purchased a book which revels in the details of life in London 1740-1770.
Dr Johnson's London by Lisa Picard is a strange book. It's not a history book by any stretch of the imagination, it doesn't really seek to place anything in context. It reads like a strange mixture, in fact, between a roleplaying source book and a coffee table book. It's full of short sections, packed with facts intended to provide flavour, inform or amuse. Picard has a wry sense of humour and sprinkles the book with her own personality. At the end of a section on the language of fans she comments "But the snag, as with all phrase books, was the risk of your partner having a different edition, or none at all, and this desperate semaphore getting you nowhere.". However she also has a tendency towards sudden non-sequiturs and the abrupt dropping of subjects which makes reading the book a rather disjointed experience. It's a useful and entertaining source of random facts about life in 18th century London but I didn't feel I came away with any overall understanding of any aspect of that life, beyond the vital importance of stays. 150 years later my great-grandmother was to work briefly as a stay-maker, clearly little had changed.
Anyway as a scientist with an interest in the history of ideas, missing out on the 18th century has proved to be something of a hole in my education. On the other hand there is nothing like deciding to set some fanfic in 18th century London to make you actually do something about such a hole. So I haven't gone out and purchased anything on the Royal Society or the Enlightenment but instead purchased a book which revels in the details of life in London 1740-1770.
Dr Johnson's London by Lisa Picard is a strange book. It's not a history book by any stretch of the imagination, it doesn't really seek to place anything in context. It reads like a strange mixture, in fact, between a roleplaying source book and a coffee table book. It's full of short sections, packed with facts intended to provide flavour, inform or amuse. Picard has a wry sense of humour and sprinkles the book with her own personality. At the end of a section on the language of fans she comments "But the snag, as with all phrase books, was the risk of your partner having a different edition, or none at all, and this desperate semaphore getting you nowhere.". However she also has a tendency towards sudden non-sequiturs and the abrupt dropping of subjects which makes reading the book a rather disjointed experience. It's a useful and entertaining source of random facts about life in 18th century London but I didn't feel I came away with any overall understanding of any aspect of that life, beyond the vital importance of stays. 150 years later my great-grandmother was to work briefly as a stay-maker, clearly little had changed.
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18th century
Date: 2009-01-08 08:01 pm (UTC)Book recommendations from Sweetheartwhale:1) "The Lunar Men" - she can't remember the author's name but its about Wedgwood and his society of fellow scientists.2) "The Scottish Enlightenment", same sort of things but also has details on the politics and philosophy. Try amazon -should both still be in print.
Happy discovering!
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Date: 2009-01-08 08:15 pm (UTC)I would insist it all makes sense really, were it not for the fact it is clearly a stark-staring mad bunny.
For the next Primeval by Gaslight, and I'm not promising another by any means, I would need textbooks on the Victorian Underground, sexual mores and Women's education...
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Date: 2009-01-08 11:39 pm (UTC)oh no, not seventh heaven...I've got muse construction crews on standby, just in case it turns out someone was pulling my leg when they told me that - in one religion somewhere - there are over a hundred tiers to heaven.
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Date: 2009-01-09 11:30 am (UTC)I'm hoping you'll get to see it by the end of the month...
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Date: 2009-01-09 02:58 pm (UTC)seriously: whenever you feel it's done, I've no doubt I'll enjoy it.
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Date: 2009-01-08 08:47 pm (UTC)I'm torn now between wanting to carry on the same set up and darting around like a mad thing.
Mind you, then I'd have to do a 16th century one and I'm useless at blank verse.
Though the one told entirely through cave paintings has a certain appeal.
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Date: 2009-01-08 09:01 pm (UTC)That's kind of what I was thinking :-) And the thought of the SF boys in 50s style British Army uniforms is appealing, too.
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Date: 2009-01-08 11:43 pm (UTC)(you see? I told you Doctor Who counts as period research)
Lt Tremayne, I suggest you hush up, or I'll have the Doctor bugger you.
(how is that a threat?)
the First Doctor.
(ASB! *runs away anyway*)
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Date: 2009-01-08 08:19 pm (UTC)Frank McLynn's Crime and Punishment in 18th Century England is interesting, and London Life in the 18th Century, by M.Dorothy George, gives a good overview of society in general as experienced in the capital - my copy has been very well-thumbed.
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Date: 2009-01-08 08:35 pm (UTC)Wow! Definitely ouch, at that price! My copy of the McLynn is a paperback, bought it years ago. Thirty-five quid is a mite steep, I have to say (must be the hardback).
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Date: 2009-01-08 08:45 pm (UTC)Primeval by Gaslight was an AU retelling of the first episode which has rather surprised me with its popularity. I don't exactly have a pitchfork wielding mob at my heels but the demands that I subject the rest of the series to the same treatment have gone beyond subtle hints...
History teachers...
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Date: 2009-01-11 07:08 pm (UTC)lunar men. english and scottish enlghtenment etc
Date: 2009-01-10 11:10 pm (UTC)Love Mum