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Sep. 18th, 2014 08:10 pm
purplecat: The Tardis against a sunset (or possibly sunrise) (Doctor Who)
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"Capaldi's a lot better an actor than most recent Doctors" my tame layman commented at the end of Listen.

Actually I think the impressive thing about Capaldi's performance here was that he opted neither for a very minimalist acting style, nor for the frenetic hyperactivity characteristic of most modern Doctors. It was the fact he was playing somewhere in between that made the final reveal here, I think, both a surprise and not a surprise.

No-longer-so-small child bugged out early on this one claiming that it would give her nightmares and it was interesting to see her relax once I explained the set up to her later. I think it interesting that a show that is notoriously about scaring children (behind the sofa) chose to make an episode that was explicitly about how there was nothing under the bed and how our own fears can magnify the mundane into something horrific. Of course, part of Moffat's schtick is making the mundane horrific, and he was enjoying doing this here but it was nice to see him pull the rug from under his own feet. It was also nice to see he can write a story that is about something real people experience. His stories have a tendency either to be about little more than the puzzle they present, or about rather esoteric sci-fi concepts - "what if my daughter was kidnapped at birth by time travelling cultists intent on killing my best friend and was nevertheless conceived in the space time vortex and so has strange time lord powers and is now older than me" type of stuff.

Clara, once again, got a much better role than she had last season. Despite the somewhat rocky start at the end of Deep Breath, it's been interesting to see Clara getting the role of someone who makes decisions for the Doctor, not something I think companions have done much in the past. I'd be interested to see that continue. Seeing Clara going back to the Doctor's childhood didn't annoyed me in the way it has obviously annoyed many people. It obviously requires a massive hand wave to make sense within Doctor Who's own logic (but, hey, impossible girl) but there is a hand wave that makes it work. I'm also not sure it was intended to be as all-encompassing a definition of the Doctor's character as many have suggested. I don't think this was Moffat hubristically trying to lay claim to Doctor Who's entire back story. He laid claim to an influential moment but I think that the show has to do that kind of thing from time to time simply to move forward and I'm not sure it is any more show-stopping than destroying Gallifrey, inventing the Time Lords, or suggesting the Doctor is half-human.


Easily the best story for some time, I would say, and the first time I've actually been convinced by Capaldi's performance, and convinced that he has the potential to be an excellent Doctor.

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Date: 2014-09-18 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] magister
I've basically enjoyed everything from Capaldi this series. I'm seeing a lot of Hartnell and Pertwee there, both of which make some sense - Capaldi was a big Pertwee fan as a child, while within the world of the series, this is the first of his regeneration cycle, so harking back to his first self fits. The Doctor lying that the Tardis needed to recharge calls back to Hartnell sabotaging the Tardis an awful long time ago. Thinking about it, the Doctor himself referred back to that story in Into the Dalek, saying that before he met the Daleks, he didn't know what being the Doctor meant. Last thing he does before meeting the Daleks is lie that the Tardis is broken so he can stay and explore the planet, just as he does here. Perhaps he's not actually changed as much as he thinks he has?

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Date: 2014-09-18 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daniel-saunders.livejournal.com
I had mixed feelings about this one. The whole way through I was enjoying it, but also thinking, "This feels like a second-rate writer trying to do a Moffat." By which I mean that I was getting a bit fed up with the usual Moffatian motifs (or cliches, if you want to be cruel). But the ending took me by surprise and made me re-evaluate the whole episode in a much more positive way.

And - finally! - a monster-free episode! Sort of.

I think that the show has to do that kind of thing from time to time simply to move forward

I completely agree. As you noted Doctor Who does have a historic tendency towards quiet ret-cons, going back to The War Games (or even the softening of the Doctor's character over the Hartnell era, in a sense). The fans of the time always hate it, but a new generation of fans takes it as a standard part of the back-story. Until the next ret-con, of course.

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Date: 2014-09-18 10:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] fredbassett
I watched this ep tonight and really enjoyed it. There were some quite creepy moments, and I like the way the dynamic between the Doctor and Clara is developing. I found her annoying with Matt Smith but she's very much coming into her own now.

This is the first time in ages that I've enjoyed an episode.

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Date: 2014-09-19 09:42 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] fredbassett
Fraid so, I disliked him from his first appearance, and with Clara was somewhat annoyed that they seemed to have just cloned Amy Pond. I'm sure there are other potential companions than white, middle-class and pretty. But perhaps not.

But ... he cheats

Date: 2014-09-19 04:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ed-rex.livejournal.com
I liked it a lot the first time around, found myself exhaustedly angry with Steven Moffat on second viewing. (Link to my second review (http://ed-rex.com/reviews/listen_take_02), should anyone be interested.)

I think it interesting that a show that is notoriously about scaring children (behind the sofa) chose to make an episode that was explicitly about how there was nothing under the bed ...

That would have made the episode more interesting. But (as someone pointed out to me) Moffat couldn't go that far. If there wasn't something under the bed, there sure as hell was something on top of it. That sure ain't one of young Rupert's friends playing a prank just past the 19:00 minute mark.

Link to image, just in case you don't want me posting a spoiler here: Look closely at the lower left-hand corner. (http://ed-rex.com/sites/default/files/2013_06/what_is_that_then.jpg)

Re: But ... he cheats

Date: 2014-09-19 08:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-cubed.livejournal.com
Two words: "The Silence". Even if you actually see what it is, you instantly forget.

Re: But ... he cheats

Date: 2014-09-20 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ed-rex.livejournal.com
I started reading your second review but, to be honest, got a bit bogged down in the Evolution rant.

That stings a bit, but I guess I can understand it. [livejournal.com profile] patches365 managed to make the same point in one brief paragraph.

I've never really expected sensible science from Doctor Who or, by extension, the Doctor.

Nor do I, but I don't like really basic stuff being gotten completely wrong. (Won't somebody think of the children!)

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Date: 2014-09-20 07:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kargicq.livejournal.com
I think all the recent Doctors have been super actors with really interesting faces. Probably a key reason why I still watch, actually! I agree Capaldi was fantastic. I liked this ep. I think the Thing Under The Blanket couldn't just be a kid, as it would be too silly if the wise and ancient Time Lord really couldn't tell the difference between a scary alien and a kid playing a prank. -N

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